Comments on: A Vision of Students Today|Una visión de los estudiantes de hoy http://efl20.com/index.php/2007/11/a-vision-of-students-todayuna-vision-de-los-estudiantes-de-hoy/ The blog on EFL, web 2.0, TEFL, ELE, social web, elearning and more. Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:38:39 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: E.Benito Ruiz http://efl20.com/index.php/2007/11/a-vision-of-students-todayuna-vision-de-los-estudiantes-de-hoy/comment-page-1/#comment-663 E.Benito Ruiz Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:27:29 +0000 http://maberui.webs.upv.es/?p=129#comment-663 Yes, you know that expression on digital natives vs digital immigrants, the buzzword of the year. But I just don't buy it anymore, I mean, from my experience at this Uni I have realized that we've taken for granted many things, so yes they're young, but most of them don't know what a blog or a wiki is, or worse, what RSS csn do for them. So I, 31 (turning 32 soon), do know much more about all this than they do and what's more, I am proactive, I don't wait for anyone to tell me to do this or that and I try to be up to date. (I haven't really carried out proper statistics yet..) but I think the ratio is 2 every 10 students. However, I also have noticed that if the teacher is proactive, those proactive students are not ashamed of taking part actively in the whole learning process. And last but not least, who cares about proactive teachers at this University anyways? Is it rewarded? I'm seriously considering consultancy, instead! Yes, you know that expression on digital natives vs digital immigrants, the buzzword of the year. But I just don’t buy it anymore, I mean, from my experience at this Uni I have realized that we’ve taken for granted many things, so yes they’re young, but most of them don’t know what a blog or a wiki is, or worse, what RSS csn do for them. So I, 31 (turning 32 soon), do know much more about all this than they do and what’s more, I am proactive, I don’t wait for anyone to tell me to do this or that and I try to be up to date. (I haven’t really carried out proper statistics yet..) but I think the ratio is 2 every 10 students. However, I also have noticed that if the teacher is proactive, those proactive students are not ashamed of taking part actively in the whole learning process. And last but not least, who cares about proactive teachers at this University anyways? Is it rewarded? I’m seriously considering consultancy, instead!

]]> By: Andrés http://efl20.com/index.php/2007/11/a-vision-of-students-todayuna-vision-de-los-estudiantes-de-hoy/comment-page-1/#comment-656 Andrés Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:09:11 +0000 http://maberui.webs.upv.es/?p=129#comment-656 I do not have a clear opinion about what is the reason behind this, maybe the Internet is largely the cause but I can imagine many inter related features of our society are to blame. Anyway the thing is that I see that learning classical frames are blurring, and that is happening also in other activities such as customer relations and marketing in business environments. Some people are no longer restricted by previous 'cultural' frames for their daily activities, such as learning taking place in a classroom with a teacher, and more and more people, specially teenagers and university students, is flexible enough to develop and adopt new more efficient strategies to perform better. Social evolution I guess. By the way I reckon that to be succesful in this new environment you need to be proactive, so I would expect this to be more and more important, and hopefully more and more common. I do not have a clear opinion about what is the reason behind this, maybe the Internet is largely the cause but I can imagine many inter related features of our society are to blame.
Anyway the thing is that I see that learning classical frames are blurring, and that is happening also in other activities such as customer relations and marketing in business environments. Some people are no longer restricted by previous ‘cultural’ frames for their daily activities, such as learning taking place in a classroom with a teacher, and more and more people, specially teenagers and university students, is flexible enough to develop and adopt new more efficient strategies to perform better. Social evolution I guess.

By the way I reckon that to be succesful in this new environment you need to be proactive, so I would expect this to be more and more important, and hopefully more and more common.

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